SHEJIDAN CHAT III
TRANSCRIPT
5/10/2003 12:15:48 PM
Note: For some reason, when I logged
the chat, the subject of actions (in purple text) are not listed. Only
an asterisk is shown, so you have no idea who actually did the action. Sorry
about that. I'm not sure why that happened. Oh, and thanks to
Sabina for providing the first section of the chat from before I logged in.
Once again, Sabina saves the day.
[18:05] Hawklady is now Available ()
[18:05] TacticoStormwind is now Available ()
[18:05] hautdesert is now Available ()
[18:05] Shoka is now Available ()
[18:05] sabina is now Available ()
[16:52]<TacticoStormwind> I'm going to join the Civil Air Patrol
as soon as I get in contact with them
[16:52]<Shoka> Good luck tac. If the sucess rate is
as low as it is for fighter pilots in UK the ods against getting in are huge.
[16:53]<TacticoStormwind> Makes me want it even more
[16:53]<Hawklady> Where do you live Haut?
[16:53]<hautdesert> In St. Louis.
[16:55]<Shoka> Hey its a great ambition to aspire
to Tac. Just that in UK at least less than 1 in 1000 actully get to fly jets
[16:55]<Hawklady> Is that southern US - I'm not too good
on geograhy I'm afraid
[16:55]<hautdesert> I gather it's pretty competetive here,
too.
[16:56]<hautdesert> It's in the middle--sort of on the
border of north and south. Most st. louisans consider themselves midwesterners,
some folks in the north think we're southern, but no southerner would make
that mistake.
[16:57]<TacticoStormwind> Heh I live in Alabama, so I know I'm
in the South
[16:57]<TacticoStormwind> And sorry I never answered you back
with any comments Hawk I minimized WinJabber and forgot about it, lol
[16:57]<TacticoStormwind> Talk about a one track mind
[16:58]<Hawklady> Ok - Its probably a little like living
in the north of England when you have a southern English accent, like me
[16:59]<Hawklady> Only one track, Tac - looks like both
lanes to me :-)
[16:59]<hautdesert> I had someone in Ireland ask me, "Is
it near Conecticut, or San Francisco?" So your geography isn't as bad as
it could be.
[16:59]<hautdesert> It's sort of like that. If you leave
the city, the state (especially the southern part) can be pretty southern.
We're enough on the border to have feet in both sides, I guess.
[17:00]<hautdesert> But everyone thinks we belong somewhere
else.
[17:00]<TacticoStormwind> Heh
[17:00]<hautdesert> Yeah, Tac, alabama is pretty southern!
[17:01]<Shoka> Where are the res do you think?
[18:05] %% sabina has joined
[18:05]<hautdesert> It's early yet. They may not have
logged on. My client said CK was online, but he hasn't responded to my hail.
[18:05]<hautdesert> Hi, Sabina! speak of the devil!
[18:05]<Hawklady> Hi Sabina
[18:05]<Shoka> Keyboard cant spell again. Where are
the rest?
[18:06]<hautdesert> probably still firing up their computers.
[18:06]<sabina> 'Allo
[18:06] EupathicImpulse is now Available ()
[18:06] %% EupathicImpulse has joined
[18:06]<Shoka> Ahh Hi Sabina
[18:06]<EupathicImpulse> Greetings
[18:06]<TacticoStormwind> Oh do you guys wanna know something
friggin awesome that I did at Six Flags?!?!?!?! If not I'm probably going
to tell you anyway, lol ;-)
[18:06]<hautdesert> Yo! Eu!
[18:06]<Hawklady> Shoka and I have been chatting for
quite a while - we were wondering if we'd got the right room.
[18:07]<EupathicImpulse> Yes, it is I, Impulse +)
[18:07]<Shoka> Looks like those who know what they
are doing have started to arrive. Must be the right room after all.
[18:07]<Hawklady> Hi EI
[18:07]<EupathicImpulse> I managed to get it working with Tkabber.
Instructions are a little different from the WinJab ones.
[18:07]<TacticoStormwind> I went into this place where you could
play Virtual reality games. You put the helmet on and it's like you were
in that world. You had to move around to actually look around and stuff.
Omg those first person shooter games were so awesome. Ok I'm done
[18:08]<EupathicImpulse> Though it is a little unstable and
I get silly errors from time to time.
[18:08]<hautdesert> I was wondering about that. It acn
be kind of confusing at first--I'm glad tkabber worked!
[18:08]<Hawklady> Sounds like it was good fun anyway
Tac
[18:08]<TacticoStormwind> Yes, it was great
[18:08]<Hawklady> Have you played paintball at all -
my sone used to love it.
[18:08]<TacticoStormwind> I probably spent a good 2 and a half
hours in there
[18:08]<hautdesert> yeah, i had to try a couple of clients,
myself, until I found one that worked. Winjab seems pretty stable. mostly.
[18:09]<TacticoStormwind> No, I've been wanting to Paintball
badly though
[18:09]<EupathicImpulse> I avoid pain. Paintball sounds painful.
[18:09]<Hawklady> Do you have to be 18 to play it though?
[18:09]<TacticoStormwind> MIRC, is a good alternative to WinJabber
[18:09]<TacticoStormwind> Not in America...
[18:09]<sabina> I like IRC
[18:09]<EupathicImpulse> I prefer IRC too.
[18:10]<Shoka> I'm as usual running a linux client.
Gaim with te jabber add-on seems ok
[18:10]<EupathicImpulse> How do you get /me commands here?
[18:10] * TacticoStormwind runs
[18:10]<Hawklady> I am using winjabber - it closed the
link on me earlier, but seems to be OK now
[18:10] * EupathicImpulse I see.
[18:10]<EupathicImpulse> I like Tkabber because it's Tcl/tk
and can therefore run anywhere.
[18:10] * TacticoStormwind has changed the
subject to: Tactico= Your king
[18:10]<TacticoStormwind> Haha, forgot you coulddo that
[18:11]<TacticoStormwind> could do*
[18:11]<EupathicImpulse> :)
[18:11]<EupathicImpulse> ;)
[18:11]<EupathicImpulse> :atevi
[18:11]<EupathicImpulse> Nope.
[18:11]<EupathicImpulse> I wonder if that could be set up.
Hmm.
[18:12]<Hawklady> I can't do smileys either :-(
[18:12]<sabina> I don't think smileys are possible
[18:12]<EupathicImpulse> Tkabber does graphical smileys, but
I suppose we haven't added the Shejidan smileys.
[18:12]<TacticoStormwind> Well I've got to go to get ready to
go to my friends house
[18:12]<Hawklady> At least they don't show as such on
my browser
[18:12]<EupathicImpulse> I am seeing your smileys as pictures.
[18:12]<TacticoStormwind> I'm sorry I couldn't stay longer
[18:12]<EupathicImpulse> Quite similar to the EZboard ones.
[18:12]<Hawklady> Are you going somewhere nice?
[18:13] * TacticoStormwind has changed the
subject to: Tactico loves you all!!!!!!!!!
[18:13]<TacticoStormwind> See you guys later!
[18:13]<EupathicImpulse> So I was wondering if people had added
them or it was just the authors of Tkabber.
[18:13]<Shoka> Ta Ta Tac. Luck with the pilot ambition.
[18:13]<EupathicImpulse> See you.
[18:13]<TacticoStormwind> Heh thanks
[18:13]<Hawklady> Bye Tac!
[18:13]<sabina> Just Tkabber
[18:13] %% TacticoStormwind has left
[18:13]<EupathicImpulse> Oh! A tkabber barf!
[18:13]<hautdesert> it myst by tkabber, I don't have them
[18:13]<EupathicImpulse> I'm going to count them.
[18:14]<hautdesert> I don't know what me commands are--there's
something you can do, though, to do actinos that I always forget
[18:14]<EupathicImpulse> It took me a while to upgrade my Tcl/tk
to get it working.
[18:14] * hautdesert tests the action
[18:14]<EupathicImpulse> It's just regular /me.
[18:14] * hautdesert discovers Eu is correct.
[18:14]<EupathicImpulse> I think there is some IRC compatibility.
[18:15]<hautdesert> yes, if the server has the right software
on it. It can also communicate with AIM and MSN--if the stars are all lined
up correctly.
[18:15]<sabina> IRC is possible, but difficult at best
[18:15]<EupathicImpulse> If I spoke Tcl/tk I'd fix these barfings.
[18:15] * EupathicImpulse has forgotten his
Tcl/tk. Did it in high school for a summer job.
[18:16]<Shoka> does his come out as a smiley =-O
[18:16] * hautdesert is impressed. a few cgi
programs in perl is the most she's ever done.
[12:12 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Ah, perl. I
had to use it for a text mining project this last semester.
[12:12 PM]<EupathicImpulse> A good thing
about Tkabber is that the barfings don't really terminate use.
[12:13 PM]<hautdesert> yeah, i'm told it's
great for working with text. I used it to make an automated Fog Indexer.
I was very proud of myself.
[12:13 PM]<EupathicImpulse> I think one of
the selling points of tcl/tk is that it is robust.
[12:14 PM]<hautdesert> I also used it for
the Foreigner quote of the day.
[12:14 PM]<EupathicImpulse> I used it to
render a bunch of movie reviews into various minable forms, each a different
experiment in text classification. Trying to figure out what words are reliable
predictors of a bad review.
[12:14 PM]<EupathicImpulse> haut: used what?
[12:15 PM]<Shoka> For the terminally confused
TCL/TC is a programming language, as is Perl
[12:15 PM]<Hawklady> All these technical
abbrviations are fascinating - I've only done a very basic computer training
so have no idea what most of that means
[12:15 PM]<hautdesert> perl
[12:15 PM]<Hawklady> Hi Ansi!
[12:15 PM]<Ansikalden> Hi!
[12:15 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Tkabber barf!
That's three in ten minutes!
[12:15 PM]<hautdesert> hi, ansi!
[12:15 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Hi!
[12:15 PM]<sabina> Hello Ansi
[12:15 PM]<Shoka> Hi Ansi
[12:15 PM]<Ansikalden> I figured the time
wrong...
[12:16 PM]<EupathicImpulse> There's a module
for perl that turns it into proper Latin.
[12:15 PM]TacticoStormwind has set the topic to: Tactico loves
you all!!!!!!!!!
[12:15 PM]CKTC has joined
[12:15 PM]<EupathicImpulse> It's brilliant.
[12:15 PM]<Hawklady> Hi CK!
[12:16 PM]<hautdesert> hi CK!
[12:16 PM]<CKTC> Hello!
[12:16 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Ah, CK-aiji.
[12:16 PM]<Shoka> Wahoo Welcome Aiji-Ma
[12:16 PM]<CKTC> Sorry, folks. I'm getting
lunch. BRB in about 2 minutes okay?
[12:16 PM]<CKTC> Thanks!
[12:16 PM]<EupathicImpulse> De rien, as they
say in French.
[12:16 PM]<hautdesert> Lunch! Like eating
is more important than us!!!
[12:16 PM]<EupathicImpulse> He *is* the aiji.
[12:16 PM]<Hawklady> So?
[12:16 PM]<EupathicImpulse> [b]is[/b]
[12:16 PM]<Shoka> More like Tea this side
of the Atlantic
[12:17 PM]<Ansikalden> CK needs his food.
[12:17 PM]<EupathicImpulse> I just had breakfast,
and it's lunch time now.
[12:17 PM]<hautdesert> does it take html
? <i>is</i>
[12:17 PM]<hautdesert> Nope, no html
[12:17 PM]<EupathicImpulse> I had instant
oatmeal. Quaker peaches and creme.
[12:18 PM]<Hawklady> We just had lunch, and
its tea-time now!
[12:18 PM]<EupathicImpulse> What's the IRC
bold command?
[12:18 PM]<hautdesert> It's lunch time here,
but I haven't eaten anything.
[12:18 PM]<sabina> Almost supper
[12:18 PM]<EupathicImpulse> I suspect it
might work.
[12:18 PM]<Ansikalden> Just ate dinner.
[12:18 PM]<Shoka> No no no its Tea time :-D
[12:18 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Wow, those smileys
really do look like EZboard smileys.
[12:18 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Wonder if they
stole them.
[12:19 PM]<hautdesert> it's control b
[12:19 PM]<hautdesert> but it doesn't work
[12:19 PM]<EupathicImpulse> No, won't work
here either.
[12:19 PM]<hautdesert> Just looked it up
on google
[12:19 PM]<Shoka> Hey EI does that show as
a smiley to you then
[12:19 PM]<Hawklady> All I see is the keyed
in characters :-(
[12:19 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Yes, it does.
[12:19 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Someone programmed
in smileys in Tkabber.
[12:19 PM]<EupathicImpulse> They are suspiciously
similar to the EZboard ones.
[12:20 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Oh, brb...hopefully.
[12:20 PM]<hautdesert> There's a sort of
stock of basic smileys
[12:21 PM]Ansikalden has left
[12:21 PM]<Shoka> I can do O:-) :-D :-!
:-X :'( :-[ :-* :-$ :-( =-O :-) 8-)' :-/ :-P ;-) >:o
[12:21 PM]<CKTC> Hey, food is very important!
[12:21 PM]<CKTC> :D
[12:21 PM]<CKTC> Weird. These emoticons
are funny looking.
[12:22 PM]<Hawklady> Yes, that's why we ate
first!
[12:22 PM]<CKTC> Heh. I said I was sorry!
[12:22 PM]<Shoka> Is anybody using Winjabber
seeing the smileys
[12:22 PM]<CKTC> *Munches on sandwich.*
[12:22 PM]<CKTC> I do.
[12:22 PM]<hautdesert> I don't have emoticons--just
text smileys
[12:22 PM]<CKTC> I'm using Exodus actually.
[12:22 PM]<hautdesert> CK, are you using
windjab?
[12:22 PM]<hautdesert> Ah, the mystery solved.
[12:23 PM]<CKTC> Yeah. I had to re-download
since my computer crashed sometime after the last chat.
[12:23 PM]<CKTC> Exodus works very well.
It's easy to use, so far.
[12:23 PM]<Hawklady> Perhaps I should try
that for the next chat
[12:23 PM]<CKTC> Is anyone trapped at the
boards? Seems we always have someone not able to get into the chat.
[12:24 PM]<CKTC> I'm glad you folks could
make it on such short notice, btw.
[12:24 PM]<sabina> Exodus didn't like me
[12:24 PM]<CKTC> It didn't? D'oh!
[12:24 PM]<hautdesert> ^Btesting
[12:24 PM]<hautdesert> didn't work
[12:24 PM]<CKTC> Huh?
[12:24 PM]<Shoka> No Susan. Was she expected
?
[12:25 PM]<CKTC> No Cory either.
[12:25 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Back.
[12:25 PM]<CKTC> Hullo, EI :)
[12:25 PM]<Hawklady> Or Col
[12:25 PM]<hautdesert> Trying to get bolded
text. I'm surprised Susan isn't here, maybe she'll show up.
[12:25 PM]<Hawklady> Or Spense
[12:25 PM]<hautdesert> They might be along
in awhile.
[12:25 PM]Ansikalden has joined
[12:25 PM]<CKTC> Hmm. I think I'll go post
a thread for the Lost.
[12:25 PM]<hautdesert> having trouble, ansi?
[12:26 PM]<Ansikalden> A glitch...
[12:26 PM]<EupathicImpulse> So I took up
a recommendation in the Better Than Sex forum and started reading Kristine
Smith's idomeni trilogy.
[12:26 PM]<hautdesert> is it any good?
[12:26 PM]<EupathicImpulse> It's quite good
for an author's first attempt.
[12:26 PM]<EupathicImpulse> It's a little
confusing at times, because she does the Julian May hindsight thing without
Julian May's skill.
[12:26 PM]<Ansikalden> I think so too, EI.
[12:27 PM]<sabina> One of my profs said that
the word "glitch" is borrowed from German, but I have no idea from which word
[12:27 PM]<Shoka> By the end of a trilogy,
you can hardly call ita first attempt
[12:27 PM]<EupathicImpulse> I only read the
first book.
[12:27 PM]<EupathicImpulse> I'm just starting
the second.
[12:27 PM]<hautdesert> second books of trilogys
are usually better.
[12:27 PM]<hautdesert> trilogies
[12:27 PM]<hautdesert> trilobites
[12:28 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Trying to reconstruct
the main character's history is kind of a puzzle, because she only lets it
out in bits and piece...a tad awkwardly.
[12:28 PM]<Shoka> Hey no Mule either
[12:28 PM]<Hawklady> Or Shlinas
[12:28 PM]<hautdesert> It's better tahn a
huge infodump, but hard to manage gracefully.
[12:28 PM]<EupathicImpulse> It is better
than an infodump. I'd like to know more of the history of the Families,
though.
[12:28 PM]<CKTC> Some folks might not know
it's today. It was pretty short notice, the chat announcement.
[12:29 PM]<CKTC> Never read anything by that
author or by Julian May.
[12:29 PM]<EupathicImpulse> I strongly strongly
strongly recommend Julian May.
[12:29 PM]<Shoka> Trilobites come in three
pieces Head - Thorax - Abdomen:-D
[12:29 PM]<Hawklady> Nor me, Ck
[12:29 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Though Kristine
Smith is more Foreigner-ish.
[12:29 PM]<CKTC> I'll keep May in mind, though
I don't have time to read much lately.
[12:30 PM]<EupathicImpulse> I have to read
or I'll go insane +)
[12:30 PM]<CKTC> So maybe I'm insane. Ack!
[12:30 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Ack!
[12:30 PM]<hautdesert> i can't read much
right now, too busy sppitting stuff out.
[12:30 PM]<CKTC> Spitting?
[12:30 PM]<hautdesert> but i have to have
someting to read, or I loose it, too
[12:30 PM]<CKTC> Spitting?!?
[12:30 PM]<hautdesert> I'm determined to
finsihs this draft by the end of june.
[12:31 PM]<EupathicImpulse> You may have
noticed that I just reread the Faded Sun books...while I was under a horrible
time crunch.
[12:31 PM]<EupathicImpulse> ck: fine, churning
[12:31 PM]<CKTC> Churning what? Am I missing
something?
[12:31 PM]<Shoka> Thomas Covenant was Julin
May ? The golden torq
[12:31 PM]<hautdesert> ah, churning is much
better. I was trying to be more polite than "barfing"
[12:31 PM]<CKTC> Oh my.
[12:31 PM]<CKTC> Are you sick, haut?
[12:31 PM]<hautdesert> Isendeni Statino.
[12:31 PM]<hautdesert> no, I'm not sick.
[12:31 PM]<CKTC> Oh, writing! Why didn'tcha
say so?
[12:32 PM]<CKTC> Heh!
[12:32 PM]<CKTC> I have to finish reading
that someday.
[12:32 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Thomas Covenant
is by Stephen R Donaldson.
[12:32 PM]<hautdesert> Nah, wait until I
have this draft. It's changed a lot.
[12:32 PM]<hautdesert> gack! Thonmas Covenant!
[12:32 PM]<CKTC> I think I read something
by Donaldson once, long ago. I wasn't too thrilled with it.
[12:32 PM]<CKTC> Oh, okay, haut.
[12:32 PM]<Shoka> Ah yess sorry Blaming May
for Donalsons sins is hardy fair
[12:32 PM]<EupathicImpulse> I read both trilogies.
They are rather depressing.
[12:33 PM]<EupathicImpulse> The Gap is extremely
depressing. I went to the end of it, though I could hardly stand it any
more.
[12:33 PM]<hautdesert> depressing is an understatement.
So would be saying TC is an unsympathetic character.
[12:33 PM]<EupathicImpulse> He wasn't supposed
to be sympathetic, though.
[12:33 PM]<Shoka> Failed to finish the few
I started. Not on my recommended list.
[12:33 PM]<hautdesert> true, but he was just
enough over the edge I couldn't stand to be in the same place with him.
[12:33 PM]<Ansikalden> The Donaldson succeeded
[12:33 PM]<EupathicImpulse> I did find the
second book of the second series to be the best, though. I really felt for
him, for the fist time.
[12:34 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Covenant is an
anti-hero. You're supposed to hate him.
[12:34 PM]<hautdesert> Really!? I didn't
make it that far. Just the first three.
[12:34 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Yes, I think
the second trilogy is much better than the first.
[12:34 PM]<EupathicImpulse> The whole "sunbane"
thing was very clever.
[12:35 PM]<Ansikalden> But TC was much the
same
[12:35 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Yes, he was the
same character...an (anti)Christ figure.
[12:35 PM]<hautdesert> an anti hero is difficult--the
reader has to find some reason to stay with the character, even though s/he's
not sympathetic. A hard balancing act. the scales tipped too far, for me.
I know lots of perfectly intelligent folks whose taste I respect who really
like those books,though.
[12:35 PM]<EupathicImpulse> But viewing him
through the eyes of the doctor was more interesting. And the whole Waynhim/elohim
was also very good too.
[12:36 PM]<hautdesert> viewing him through
the eyes of the doctor--that would be much better. tc makes a difficult
viewpoint character.
[12:36 PM]<EupathicImpulse> May is completely
different. She wrote three interconnected series (each one has the other
two in hindsight, very clever) based on Catholic philosophical themes.
[12:36 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Teilhardian stuff.
[12:37 PM]<CKTC> Julian May is a woman?
[12:37 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Yes.
[12:37 PM]<CKTC> Oh.
[12:37 PM]<EupathicImpulse> She wrote the
last trilogy 15 years after the first quadrology. However, the first quadrology
refers to fine details of the last trilogy, and it is *perfectly* consistent.
[12:37 PM]<Shoka> Sounds better, Ill remove
the subconcious association with Donaldson, and try again
[12:38 PM]<EupathicImpulse> She too has a
sort of anti-hero, but much better painted.
[12:39 PM]<EupathicImpulse> I want to get
my hands on Robert Sawyer's Neanderthal Parallax trilogy. New.
[12:39 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Robert Sawyer:
one dose male midlife crisis, another dose typically self-conscious Canadiana,
another dose oh-so-clever driving idea.
[12:40 PM]<Ansikalden> I've been thinking
about them but not yet bought them.
[12:40 PM]<hautdesert> he was at midsouthcon
[12:40 PM]<EupathicImpulse> So I heard.
[12:40 PM]<hautdesert> very pleasant, i was
intrigued to read his books.
[12:40 PM]<EupathicImpulse> I also want to
read Atwood's Oryx and Crake. Why doesn't she just admit it? She's a SF
writer!
[12:40 PM]<hautdesert> Oh, no, that would
be terrible!
[12:40 PM]<hautdesert> to be an sf writer!
[12:41 PM]<CKTC> Those crazy sf writers...
[12:41 PM]<Shoka> And kiss her market goodbye?
[12:41 PM]<hautdesert> why would anyone in
their right minds admit to that sort of trivial, escapist writing.
[12:41 PM]<hautdesert> excactly, shoka
[12:41 PM]<Ansikalden> It's highest praise
[12:41 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Oryx and Crake,
by the interviews with her I've seen on the radio, is extremely Foreignerish.
[12:41 PM]<hautdesert> thousand of people
read SF as long as its not called sf. call it sf, and those same people
wouldn't touch it with a ten ft pole.
[12:41 PM]<EupathicImpulse> I mean, there's
a human character surrounded by humanoid-but-emotionally-changed creatures.
[12:41 PM]<CKTC> Sounds interesting.
[12:42 PM]<hautdesert> atwood's a good writer,
too.
[12:42 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Granted, they
were once human and modified by GM, but still.
[12:42 PM]<EupathicImpulse> But it fits right
into a very large genre of SF dystopias.
[12:42 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Like, of course,
the Handmaid's Tale...
[12:43 PM]<CKTC> *Realizes how woefully unread
he is.*
[12:43 PM]<Shoka> Most of the "horror" I've
looked at is Fantasy maskerading as something else for marketing reasons.
[12:43 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Yes.
[12:44 PM]<EupathicImpulse> So I made the
mistake of going to see Bulletproof Monk.
[12:44 PM]<hautdesert> Was it good?
[12:44 PM]<EupathicImpulse> It was like a
bunch of still pictures of stereotypes.
[12:44 PM]<CKTC> D'oh! Why?
[12:44 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Just one after
the other.
[12:44 PM]<CKTC> I love HK action movies,
and I didn't see Bulletproof Monk. The trailer looked horrible.
[12:44 PM]<EupathicImpulse> It is truly horrible.
[12:44 PM]<hautdesert> I found some stuff
atwood wrote about Oryx and Crake--her reason it's not SF--get this--Like
The Handmaid's Tale, Oryx and Crake is a speculative fiction, not a science
fiction proper. It contains no intergalactic space travel, no teleportation,
no Martians. As with The Handmaid's Tale, it invents nothing we haven't already
invented or started to invent. Every novel begins with a what if, and then
sets forth its axioms. The what if of Oryx and Crake is simply, What if
we continue down the road we're already on? How slippery is the slope? What
are our saving graces? Who's got the will to stop us?
[12:44 PM]<hautdesert> http://www.randomhouse.com/features/atwood/essay.html
is where it's at.
[12:45 PM]<hautdesert> She's working with
a bad definition, seems to me.
[12:45 PM]<EupathicImpulse> She is. Just
for marketing reasons.
[12:45 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Doris Lessing
wasn't afraid of SF.
[12:45 PM]<hautdesert> It's literature, you
see. The same way 1984 and Brave New World aren't SF.
[12:45 PM]<Shoka> Nah she's working with
a saleable definition...
[12:45 PM]* thinks unread is better than undead
[12:45 PM]<hautdesert> I've heard she should
have been, though.
[12:45 PM]<CKTC> LOL, Ansi.
[12:46 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Did you know
that two of her SF novels were made into operas by Philip Glass. And I looked
for recordings of them, but they aren't published.
[12:46 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Yes, she got
flak at the time for her Canopus in Argos books.
[12:46 PM]<hautdesert> Well, she's right
if she's afraid she'll lose readership if she calls it SF. She's wrong that
SF is "martians and intergalactic space travel."
[12:46 PM]<CKTC> Philip Glass isn't exactly
a household name.
[12:46 PM]<hautdesert> Really? I never heard
that.
[12:46 PM]<Ansikalden> Like Lessing, started
with the SF and read her other books too.
[12:46 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Other operas
of his are available.
[12:46 PM]<hautdesert> He's pretty close,
CK.
[12:46 PM]<CKTC> Not where I live. :)
[12:46 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Akhnaten, for
instance.
[12:46 PM]<hautdesert> Einstein on the Beach,
Satyagraha, Akhnaten
[12:47 PM]<hautdesert> Go rent Koyanisqaatsi,
if you can find it, CK.
[12:47 PM]<EupathicImpulse> But, alas, not
The Making of the Representative For Planet 8.
[12:47 PM]<CKTC> I've not seen that one,
but I did see Baraka.
[12:47 PM]<hautdesert> 1000 airplanes on
the roof?
[12:47 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Nor the Marriages
Between Zones 3, 4, and 5.
[12:47 PM]<CKTC> I don't know who did the
usic for that though.
[12:47 PM]<CKTC> music.
[12:47 PM]<CKTC> Ack!
[12:47 PM]<CKTC> Typo.
[12:48 PM]<hautdesert> I've got Einstein
on the Beach and Aknaten, but not S.
[12:48 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Of the Canopus
in Argos series, the Sirian Experiments were the best.
[12:48 PM]<EupathicImpulse> I've heard bits
of Akhnaten and the other two.
[12:48 PM]<EupathicImpulse> I have the Civil
Wars on hold at the library.
[12:48 PM]<CKTC> I've wanted to see Koyaanisqaatsi
for a while, but never got around to it. Baraka was cool.
[12:48 PM]<hautdesert> I like Aknated a lot.
Einstein takes a bit more work
[12:48 PM]<hautdesert> It's hailing!
[12:48 PM]<CKTC> Saw that on the large screen
in College.
[12:49 PM]<CKTC> It was thunderstorming all
night here. For a while, I thought I wouldn't be able to use the computer
today.
[12:49 PM]<EupathicImpulse> You know, do
you ever fantasize about showing human operas to an atevi audience?
[12:49 PM]<hautdesert> We had tornadoes to
the north this morning, now it's hailing here and hautgirl and Mr. Haut are
out "just going to the bank." But they must have decided tostp somewhere
else, they've been gone awhile.
[12:49 PM]<hautdesert> Oh, good lord, yes!
[12:49 PM]<EupathicImpulse> I do all the
time, you know.
[12:49 PM]<Ansikalden> Actually no :p
[12:49 PM]<hautdesert> And I still think
about Foreigner as an opera, after CF's thread
[12:49 PM]<hautdesert> Or shakespeare, for
that matter.
[12:50 PM]<EupathicImpulse> I'd actually
like to show Les Mis.
[12:50 PM]<EupathicImpulse> In the Shejidan
Machimi Theatre.
[12:50 PM]<Shoka> Its been fine and dry all
day here, but somebody said hail, and it promptly clouded over.
[12:50 PM]<hautdesert> Eveyr time I hear
Boris Godunof's coronatino scene, I think of atevi. All that bass.
[12:50 PM]<CKTC> I think Shakespeare would
go over well. And iambic pentameter is most felicitous.
[12:50 PM]<EupathicImpulse> What if I said
"Ave"? Would it Roman over?
[12:50 PM]<hautdesert> Heh.
[12:50 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Hahaha, Latin
joke.
[12:50 PM]<hautdesert> very funny.
[12:50 PM]<EupathicImpulse> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
[12:51 PM]<CKTC> ?
[12:51 PM]<Shoka> whirr click thunk even
Shoka gets that one , i slowly:-)
[12:51 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Ave = "hail!"
in Latin.
[12:51 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Like Ave Maria.
[12:52 PM]<EupathicImpulse> (Hail Mary)
[12:52 PM]<CKTC> Oh!
[12:52 PM]<CKTC> Shoulda paid more attention
in religion class when I was a kid, I guess.
[12:52 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Ave atque vale.
Hail and farewell.
[12:52 PM]<Shoka> Whyever CK?
[12:52 PM]<CKTC> So that I'd get that joke?
[12:52 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Your life is
a waste!
[12:52 PM]<EupathicImpulse> You must go back
and rearrange it so that you can get that joke!
[12:53 PM]<Shoka> About the only good reason
I can think of for paying attention .
[12:53 PM]<CKTC> What have I been thinking
all this time! Woe is me!
[12:53 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Your whole life
has been building up to this moment...
[12:53 PM]<CKTC> And it crashed and burned!
[12:53 PM]<EupathicImpulse> ...and you squandered
it! You squandered it!
[12:53 PM]<CKTC> The horror....
[12:53 PM]<CKTC> LOL
[12:53 PM]<hautdesert> hang your head in
shame, ck
[12:53 PM]<CKTC> *Hangs head in shame.*
[12:53 PM]<EupathicImpulse> And all for just
a little bit of extra attention in class.
[12:53 PM]<CKTC> *Smacks forehead for good
measure.*
[12:53 PM]<CKTC> Bad CK....
[12:54 PM]<Shoka> Nah give em two fingers
CK, it was a lame pun at best
[12:54 PM]<hautdesert> redundant, shoka.
[12:54 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Lame puns are
the best puns.
[12:54 PM]<EupathicImpulse> The lamer the
better.
[12:54 PM]<CKTC> Gives the world a rude pair
of bunny ears.
[12:54 PM]<Hawklady> Poor CK - don't let
them all have a go at you
[12:54 PM]<CKTC> LOL, thanks Hawklady. It's
nice to know somebody cares!
[12:54 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Awww. Poor CK.
[12:55 PM]<Hawklady> Of course we do
[12:55 PM]<CKTC> Heh. Fishin' for sympathy
always works!
[12:55 PM]<hautdesert> our man'chi is to
you, aiji-ma!
[12:55 PM]<Shoka> Deeply Aiji-ma
[12:55 PM]<CKTC> :D
[12:55 PM]* bows
[12:55 PM]* bows.
[12:55 PM]<CKTC> Woohoo!
[12:55 PM]<Shoka> Shoka bows
[12:55 PM]* bows even lower than EI and ansi, and falls over
[12:55 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Despite the fact
that I am a Lylmik.
[12:55 PM]<CKTC> Hey, how do you do the actions
again? I keep forgetting.
[12:55 PM]<Hawklady> Hawklady would curtsey,
but the zimmer won't allow it!
[12:55 PM]<EupathicImpulse> And therefore
don't have enough substance to bow.
[12:56 PM]<Ansikalden> Slash me
[12:56 PM]<EupathicImpulse> You use /me.
[12:56 PM]* bows.
[12:56 PM]<Shoka> Eee where is Susan
[12:56 PM]<CKTC> Woohoo!
[12:56 PM]* wonders the same thing. Where is Susan-ji?
[12:56 PM]<hautdesert> I just emailed her.
She usually visits her mother SAturday afternoons, but she has email there.
[12:56 PM]<Shoka> /me
[12:56 PM]<CKTC> Ah, okay.
[12:56 PM]<Shoka> Now what
[12:57 PM]<CKTC> Now we sit and eat green
pizza for a while.
[12:57 PM]<hautdesert> Mmm...green pizza.
I'm hungry.
[12:57 PM]<Ansikalden> A small slice then
[12:57 PM]* passes the pizza around.
[12:57 PM]<Hawklady> Oh good
[12:57 PM]<hautdesert> I still want to make
green pizza for real, but I don't hink my family would eat it.
[12:57 PM]TacticoStormwind has joined
[12:57 PM]<CKTC> I'd eat it!
[12:57 PM]<TacticoStormwind> I'm back
[12:57 PM]<CKTC> Hey, Tac!
[12:57 PM]<hautdesert> Hi, TAc!
[12:57 PM]<TacticoStormwind> Plans changed
so I have a lil more extra time to talk to you guys
[12:58 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Hmm. Tkabber
is barfing in the same location in the code.
[12:58 PM]<hautdesert> I think Saag, canned
from the store, would make a good "spicy and sour" green sauce.
[12:58 PM]<EupathicImpulse> It's basically
the same barf. I bet if I tried I can fix it, but likely someone has already
done so.
[12:58 PM]<TacticoStormwind> Heheh and looks
like the subject is still the same
[12:58 PM]<CKTC> Cool. I saw you were on
earlier, but I wasn't at my computer.
[12:58 PM]<EupathicImpulse> How about just
pesto?
[12:58 PM]<hautdesert> It looks like it barfs
whenever someoen joins.
[12:58 PM]<CKTC> We're talking about green
pizza at the moment.
[12:58 PM]<CKTC> I bet it's tasty.
[12:58 PM]<hautdesert> Pesto would be green,
but not sour and spicy, as described in Invader.
[12:58 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Yes, it does.
There were a couple of other barfities.
[12:58 PM]<TacticoStormwind> Ah, alright
[12:58 PM]<CKTC> Barfishness?
[12:59 PM]<CKTC> Barfocity?
[12:59 PM]<CKTC> Barfation?
[12:59 PM]<EupathicImpulse> I should remember
that one. Barfocity.
[12:59 PM]<CKTC> Barf-o-rama.
[12:59 PM]<hautdesert> Welcome to beautiful
Barfo City!
[12:59 PM]<EupathicImpulse> You beat me to
it.
[12:59 PM]<EupathicImpulse> It's like Scantron,
NY.
[12:59 PM]<CKTC> LOL
[12:59 PM]* puzzles
[12:59 PM]<Shoka> No EI is using this session
to debug tkjabber or something
[12:59 PM]<hautdesert> He's got linux.
[12:59 PM]<CKTC> Poor Ansi!
[12:59 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Scantron being
those awful machines they used to take attendance in high school.
[1:00 PM]<EupathicImpulse> And mark multiple-choice
tests.
[1:00 PM]<EupathicImpulse> I dunno when
I'll ever take a road trip through the US again...OTOH, there's a finite
chance I may end up in Baltimore for two weeks in July.
[1:00 PM]<CKTC> Where are you from again,
EI?
[1:00 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Canada.
[1:00 PM]<CKTC> Oh! Okay.
[1:00 PM]<hautdesert> Baltimore--I think
CHo may be in the area, and Dramlza.
[1:01 PM]<TacticoStormwind> Ich wünsche,
daß ich Deutsches wirklich sprechen könnte.
[1:01 PM]<Hawklady> I'm just as confused
as you Ansi - probably a lot more, actually
[1:01 PM]<hautdesert> Mein Deutch ist nict
so gut.
[1:01 PM]<CKTC> No prob, Hawklady and Ansi.
Most of us are confused at one point or another. It's typical here.
[1:01 PM]<hautdesert> nicht.
[1:01 PM]<CKTC> Ni!
[1:01 PM]<Ansikalden> Danke
[1:01 PM]<CKTC> Knights who say NI!
[1:01 PM]<sabina> I've seen worse German
[1:01 PM]<hautdesert> I know a little German!
[1:01 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Ich kann auch
deutsch, sondern ich habe nicht seit fu:nf Jahren deutsch gebraucht.
[1:02 PM]<hautdesert> He's sitting over
there.
[1:02 PM]<CKTC> No hablo...uh, German.
[1:02 PM]<hautdesert> Me, either, EI. I
took two semesters in college, ant that was awhile ago.
[1:02 PM]<Shoka> as in - Das Machnen is
nict frer verken by das dumkofen -
[1:02 PM]<EupathicImpulse> I took four years
of German, but two were wasted. Terrible teacher, nice lady though.
[1:02 PM]<hautdesert> I had a professor
who jumped on tables and threw things.
[1:02 PM]<TacticoStormwind> Ich benutze
gerade einen Übersetzer
[1:02 PM]<CKTC> Oh my.
[1:02 PM]<hautdesert> Das ist die Creide!
Wiederhollen Sie!
[1:02 PM]<EupathicImpulse> I bet if I went
to Germany I could pick it up really quickly though.
[1:03 PM]* cries
[1:03 PM]<TacticoStormwind> Too fast for
me to copy and paste everything!!
[1:03 PM]<CKTC> I'm logging this chat.
[1:03 PM]<sabina> Tactico which one are
you using
[1:03 PM]<hautdesert> You'll notice I still
remember the word for chalk. The adrenaline rush fix it permanently in my
brain.
[1:03 PM]<TacticoStormwind> The one on Google
[1:03 PM]<EupathicImpulse> My first two
years of German were with a psycho teacher, but he was at least good at it.
Or passable.
[1:03 PM]<EupathicImpulse> It's possible
for a teacher to be too nice.
[1:03 PM]<CKTC> Oh. I'm an eedjit.
[1:03 PM]<EupathicImpulse> My second two
years of German were too nice.
[1:04 PM]<sabina> Must try that sometime,
it seems to work pretty well
[1:04 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Two nice meant
that the class took advantage of her and never learned anything.
[1:04 PM]<hautdesert> Not cool.
[1:04 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Those of us who
wanted to learn were pretty powerless.
[1:05 PM]* has changed the subject to: Barfocity
[1:05 PM]<EupathicImpulse> One girl dropped
out of the class and took it elsewhere on the weekends.
[1:05 PM]<hautdesert> Welcome to beautiful....oh,
sorry. got carried away.
[1:05 PM]<CKTC> I haven't taken a language
class in ages.
[1:05 PM]<EupathicImpulse> I haven't either.
Lots of linguistics classes though.
[1:05 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Syntactic theory,
mmm.
[1:05 PM]<hautdesert> I tried to take a
latin clas a few years ago, but it was cancelled. :(
[1:06 PM]<EupathicImpulse> I taught myself
some Latin.
[1:06 PM]<CKTC> Haven't taken a linguistic
class in 10 years. And it was just one intro class. It was interesting
though.
[1:06 PM]<TacticoStormwind> Meine Schule
bietet nicht eine deutsche Kategorie an und I ist wirklich zu viel eines
procrastinator zum separat Erlernen es auf meinem.
[1:06 PM]<hautdesert> I know as much as
you get from singing in choirs and just reading generally.
[1:06 PM]<CKTC> The only latin I know is
from medical terms.
[1:06 PM]<TacticoStormwind> Whoa...that
took my a while to get translated where it makes a little bit of sense
[1:06 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Spence is a linguist,
but he's a different kind of linguist.
[1:06 PM]* mute in all language classes
[1:06 PM]<EupathicImpulse> It seems.
[1:06 PM]<CKTC> But Ansi's English is excellent.
[1:06 PM]<EupathicImpulse> More anthropologically
focused.
[1:07 PM]<Ansikalden> Ansi's written Englihs
[1:07 PM]<Ansikalden> English
[1:07 PM]<CKTC> Ansi writes English very
well.
[1:07 PM]<TacticoStormwind> The only real
German I know own my own is "nein" and "du hast mich gefragt"
[1:07 PM]<CKTC> Can't imagine your spoken
English being too bad either.
[1:07 PM]<EupathicImpulse> I need to learn
to speak French better. My comprehension is quite good, though.
[1:08 PM]<EupathicImpulse> And that's quite
a challenge when trying to listen to Quebecois, which is much harder than
trying to understand people from Freedomia.
[1:08 PM]<TacticoStormwind> Oh oh and "ich
will"
[1:08 PM]<CKTC> Pfan used to speak French.
I don't think she does anymore.
[1:08 PM]<Shoka> Ansi wites English well
enough that I hadn't noticed that she is not a native English speaker.
[1:08 PM]<sabina> Oh well, Google is just
as difficult to work with as Babelfish and that atleast knows Japanese
[1:09 PM]<TacticoStormwind> I used to know
alot of Japanese
[1:09 PM]<hautdesert> Ansi probably speaks
fine. The last swede I spoke to had excellent english, and was sure she
was terrible--because standards in her class were so strict. But she was
nearly indistinguishable from a native speaker.
[1:09 PM]<TacticoStormwind> But I stopped
using it
[1:09 PM]<CKTC> Both Sabina and Ansi are
very good. Yeah, it's not readily apparent that they aren't native speakers.
[1:09 PM]<CKTC> I think both of you have
improved over the years as well.
[1:09 PM]<EupathicImpulse> I should go visit
Europe one of these days. *sigh*
[1:09 PM]* pleased
[1:09 PM]<CKTC> The only Japanese I know
is from watching too much anime.
[1:09 PM]<sabina> Please, never look up
any of my older posts
[1:09 PM]<TacticoStormwind> I should actually
get around to learning another language
[1:10 PM]<sabina> I'm learning Japanese
[1:10 PM]<hautdesert> yes, you should at
least give it a go, Tac.
[1:10 PM]<hautdesert> It's good for you.
[1:10 PM]<TacticoStormwind> I know but I'm
super-procrastinator
[1:10 PM]<CKTC> That's cool, Sabina. Jeez,
how many languages do you know?
[1:10 PM]<TacticoStormwind> And all my school
offers is Spanish which isn't offered to the basic classes (which is what
I'm in)
[1:11 PM]<hautdesert> what are basic classes?
And why can't you learn spanish if you're in them?
[1:11 PM]<CKTC> My school only offered Spanish
and Russian. The Spanish teachers were terrible.
[1:11 PM]* has changed the subject to: Shejidan's super-procrastinators
[1:11 PM]<TacticoStormwind> And Sabina the
only Japanese I retained after all these months is Konnichiwa, ogenki desu
ka
[1:11 PM]<CKTC> They spoke with heavy midwestern
US accents. Ridiculously heavy accents....
[1:11 PM]<hautdesert> My hs only offered
spanish and french. I took 4 years of spanish. It was fun. and an easy
A.
[1:11 PM]<sabina> German, English, some
Japanese (but I still have to learn much) and had six years of Latin
[1:12 PM]<CKTC> Oh yeah, my school offered
French too. Doh.
[1:12 PM]<CKTC> Wow, Sabina.
[1:12 PM]<TacticoStormwind> Ok there are
Advanced classes (where I really belong) and basic classes. Spanish is only
available to Advanced students because my school is a bunch of bastards
[1:12 PM]<sabina> I now did the same thing
I did with Foreigner and got a Japanese book which i already have in German
[1:13 PM]<CKTC> Cool.
[1:13 PM]<TacticoStormwind> I chose to take
basic classes which turned out to be the biggest mistake of my life at this
moment
[1:13 PM]<hautdesert> Oh, yes, big mistake,
tac. but you can recover if you give it an effort. Take a few junior college
courses, and buckle down in college.
[1:13 PM]<TacticoStormwind> I am above the
intellectual level of just about every Advanced student and it is too late
for me to move up
[1:14 PM]<EupathicImpulse> French in mandatory
in school here.
[1:14 PM]<hautdesert> Hmm, I wonder why....
[1:14 PM]<CKTC> If you go to college, Tac,
you can make up for that. It's not too late.
[1:14 PM]<EupathicImpulse> However, the
teaching is not very good.
[1:14 PM]<TacticoStormwind> I am although
allowed to take Advanced classes next year first and second block (we have
4 blocks a day)
[1:14 PM]<CKTC> Oh, that's good. You can
take them next year then.
[1:14 PM]<EupathicImpulse> But most people
get enough that they can easily pick it up if they watch French TV or go
live in the Gaspe or something.
[1:14 PM]<TacticoStormwind> I'm not going
to trade school so that leaves me first two blocks of the day open
[1:15 PM]<TacticoStormwind> And I can do
the same my Senior year
[1:15 PM]<TacticoStormwind> I am hoping
that Spanish will be offered first or second block. If so I'm going to monopolize
on that oppertunity
[1:16 PM]<CKTC> I've pretty much forgotten
all the Spanish I learned in school.
[1:16 PM]<TacticoStormwind> Well it's extremely
important for me to be bilingual
[1:16 PM]<TacticoStormwind> Air Force Academy
won't take me if I don't have a second language
[1:16 PM]<CKTC> I think anyone would benefit
from being bilingual. It's a whole 'nother way of thinking.
[1:16 PM]<CKTC> Oh.
[1:17 PM]<TacticoStormwind> Yeah and to
say the least, it's my dream college
[1:17 PM]<TacticoStormwind> Chances are
I'll never get in
[1:17 PM]<sabina> Whole other way of thinking,
I'm thinking more English than German
[1:17 PM]<hautdesert> two words, tac--community
college.
[1:17 PM]<CKTC> Gotta chase after your dreams,
man. Even if you don't think you'll get in.
[1:17 PM]<Shoka> I can make a stab at reading
the menu in Spanish, French, German and Dutch. Having to eat what yo orderis
a wonderful feedback learing tool.;-)
[1:18 PM]<hautdesert> get the classes you
need (like languages) for not a whole huge chunk of money. They go on your
transcirpt, and you look great when you apply to AFA.
[1:18 PM]<CKTC> Yeah, that's a good idea
that Haut has.
[1:18 PM]<TacticoStormwind> My Drivers Ed
teacher was telling me that next year I could attend a junior/community college
while still in High school and knock off some college credits and also take
foreign languages
[1:18 PM]<hautdesert> you look hardworking.
You look serious.
[1:19 PM]<hautdesert> Yep, listen to your
Drivers Ed teacher.
[1:19 PM]<CKTC> That sounds like a good
plan.
[1:19 PM]<TacticoStormwind> Are you refering
to me when you say "you" haut?
[1:19 PM]<hautdesert> yes, tac.
[1:19 PM]<TacticoStormwind> Ok just checkin
[1:19 PM]<TacticoStormwind> And yeah, I'm
going to do whatever it takes
[1:19 PM]<TacticoStormwind> One more thing
that I'm going to do to get the AFA to look at me is join the Civil Air Patrol
[1:20 PM]<TacticoStormwind> It's Air Force
run
[1:20 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Hmm. Gotta go
now.
[1:20 PM]<TacticoStormwind> C-ya EI
[1:20 PM]<EupathicImpulse> I don't know
when I'll be back on. I may be.
[1:20 PM]<CKTC> Aw, man. Bye, EI!
[1:20 PM]<hautdesert> by, EI!
[1:20 PM]<CKTC> Have a good day. Thanks
for chatting.
[1:20 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Have to move
some yard equipment :(
[1:20 PM]* waves.
[1:20 PM]<CKTC> Ack!
[1:20 PM]* waves back.
[1:20 PM]<EupathicImpulse> Bye! Sell!
Purchase!
[1:21 PM]* waves
[1:21 PM]<hautdesert> Shoka, I used to work
at a restaurant that served escargot. My mother joked once that we never
sold any (we didn't, much) because our clientle was educated enough to know
what it was!
[1:21 PM]* salutes
[1:21 PM]EupathicImpulse has left
[1:21 PM]<CKTC> I've never had escargot.
I once accidentally had turtle soup though. Close enough, if you ask me.
It tasted weird.
[1:22 PM]<hautdesert> I'll try a lot, but
I've never been brave enough to try escargot.
[1:22 PM]<TacticoStormwind> I've got to
go again, I might be back
[1:22 PM]<TacticoStormwind> I'm not sure
[1:22 PM]<TacticoStormwind> I'll talk to
you guys later
[1:22 PM]<hautdesert> bye, tac!
[1:22 PM]<CKTC> Okay, see ya, Tac!
[1:22 PM]* salutes
[1:22 PM]* waves
[1:22 PM]* waves
[1:22 PM]TacticoStormwind has left
[1:23 PM]<CKTC> Ho hum.
[1:23 PM]<Ansikalden> /listens to the silence
[1:23 PM]<CKTC> ...
[1:24 PM]* wonders if some caterwhauling might help
[1:24 PM]<CKTC> Reeeeeooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwrrrrrrrrrrrrr...
[1:24 PM]* covers her ears
[1:24 PM]<CKTC> Heh.
[1:24 PM]* folds some more laundry
[1:24 PM]* stops caterwhauling.
[1:24 PM]<CKTC> Laundry, blech.
[1:25 PM]<Ansikalden> Did lots of laundry
today
[1:25 PM]<CKTC> I did some yesterday. I'm
okay for now.
[1:25 PM]<CKTC> I hate doing laundry.
[1:25 PM]<Ansikalden> Loath doing laundry.
[1:25 PM]<CKTC> Amen to that.
[1:26 PM]<hautdesert> I've got kids--I'm
always up to my knees in laundry.
[1:26 PM]<CKTC> Ack!
[1:26 PM]<Hawklady> I did 3 weeks worth
of ironong yesterday
[1:26 PM]<hautdesert> Now ironing I won't
do. Categorically refuse.
[1:26 PM]<CKTC> Heh! I don't bother ironing.
I'll just wear things wrinkly, thanks.
[1:26 PM]<Hawklady> LOL, ironing, that is
[1:27 PM]<CKTC> Stick 'em in the dryer and
spin it a bit, and it's fine. Not too wrinkly.
[1:27 PM]<Ansikalden> /considers a wrinkly
CK
[1:27 PM]<Hawklady> I only iron SO's stuff
for work, he has to look smart
[1:27 PM]* is perpetually wrinkly.
[1:27 PM]* doesn't look smart at all.
[1:27 PM]<Hawklady> Thought that was fur,
CK
[1:27 PM]<Ansikalden> Smart fur
[1:27 PM]* never irons his fur either.
[1:28 PM]<Hawklady> I bet its all nice and
shiny though
[1:28 PM]* likes looking fashionably disheveled.
[1:28 PM]<Hawklady> That's me too
[1:28 PM]<Shoka> I skipped the escargot,
I recognised tose. I tried frogs legs though, which were ok. Cuisses de grenouikllkes
if you want to avoid them.
[1:28 PM]<Shoka> Falling behind sorry
[1:29 PM]<hautdesert> heh! my sister and
her husband had a deal--each did their own ironing. She would get very upset
when he would go to work in wrinkled clotehs, because she was sure it "made
her look bad." I told her she can't have it both ways--either she's responsible
(and takes credit) and does the work, or she doesn't and lets hubby take
responsibility for himself, and not worry about what someone else might think.
She's kind of a control freak...
[1:29 PM]<hautdesert> I love frogs legs!
sauteed in garlic butter! mmm.....
[1:29 PM]<CKTC> I've had frog legs once.
It was weird. Tasted like chicken, but felt like fish.
[1:30 PM]<Hawklady> I don't think I'd like
to try them
[1:30 PM]<Shoka> Yeh well googling for the
correct spelling tossed me up a few sites to put me off them in future..
[1:30 PM]<Hawklady> That's a definite then
[1:30 PM]<hautdesert> they're like chicken
if it were shellfish.
[1:30 PM]<hautdesert> And I love shellfish.
[1:31 PM]<CKTC> Shellfish...mmmm.
[1:31 PM]<CKTC> Selfish for shellfish.
[1:31 PM]<Shoka> Yeh chicken like and rather
fussy to eat was my opinion too
[1:31 PM]<hautdesert> I see food and I...
[1:31 PM]<hautdesert> It's the Sea-food
diet.
[1:31 PM]<CKTC> Heh.
[1:31 PM]<CKTC> I have a sudden craving
for lobster....
[1:31 PM]<hautdesert> or crab!!!
[1:31 PM]<Hawklady> Oh no
[1:31 PM]<CKTC> Mmmm!
[1:32 PM]<hautdesert> I'm hungry. I'm going
to have to feed hautfamily soon.
[1:32 PM]<CKTC> Lobster tails, broiled,
dipped in melted butter.
[1:32 PM]<hautdesert> Maybe I can get Mr.
Haut to get takeout.
[1:32 PM]<hautdesert> No lobster takeout
around here, though. :(
[1:32 PM]<Hawklady> go for it haut
[1:32 PM]<CKTC> Heh! No lobster takeout
here either. :b
[1:32 PM]<hautdesert> you're evil, ck!
[1:32 PM]<CKTC> WTH? What kinda emoticon
is that?
[1:32 PM]<CKTC> EVil? Moi?
[1:32 PM]<hautdesert> it looks llike a colon
and a lowercase b, to me.
[1:33 PM]<Hawklady> and me
[1:33 PM]<CKTC> Oh, Exodus is turning it
into a weird looking emoticon.
[1:33 PM]<Shoka> You'd like Spain CT, or
at least Madid. Sea food bars, fresh seafood at all hours
[1:33 PM]<Hawklady> Yuk
[1:33 PM]<CKTC> Now I'm in the mood for
tapas (sp?)
[1:33 PM]<CKTC> Tapas? Tappas?
[1:33 PM]<CKTC> Mmmm!
[1:33 PM]<CKTC> Damn, now I'm just hungry
in general.
[1:33 PM]<Shoka> Patatas ali-oli
[1:34 PM]<CKTC> Or what about Lebanese food?
Mmmm.....
[1:34 PM]<CKTC> Or Greek...
[1:34 PM]<CKTC> Or Indian....
[1:34 PM]<Hawklady> Greek's nice
[1:34 PM]* drools uncontrollably.
[1:34 PM]* or Japanese...
[1:34 PM]<Hawklady> Indian's nice too
[1:34 PM]<CKTC> oops. Not an action!
[1:34 PM]<CKTC> Mmmm.
[1:34 PM]<CKTC> Yaki Soba...
[1:35 PM]<CKTC> Moussaka...
[1:35 PM]* is too full to contemplate so much food
[1:35 PM]* drool....
[1:35 PM]<CKTC> Or Chinese...
[1:35 PM]* just ate Chinese
[1:35 PM]<hautdesert> not much indian here....we've
got al ebanese place. lots of thai and vietnamese here, though. yum.
[1:35 PM]<CKTC> Mmm...
[1:36 PM]<CKTC> Dim Sum...
[1:36 PM]<Hawklady> Thai's nice, haven't
tried Lebanese
[1:36 PM]<CKTC> Lebanese food is delicious!
[1:36 PM]<CKTC> I love it. It's one of
my faves around here.
[1:36 PM]<CKTC> Now I'm in the mood for
cold grape leaves.
[1:36 PM]<CKTC> Jeez, this is torture!
I'm hungry, dammit!
[1:37 PM]<Hawklady> You only just ate a
sandwich!!!
[1:37 PM]<CKTC> So?
[1:37 PM]<CKTC> :)
[1:37 PM]<hautdesert> lebanise is wonderful.
[1:37 PM]<Hawklady> :)
[1:37 PM]<hautdesert> the place here has
a specialty--roasted garlic appetizer.
[1:37 PM]<hautdesert> whole roasted garlic.
[1:37 PM]<CKTC> Ack!
[1:37 PM]<hautdesert> mmmm...
[1:37 PM]<CKTC> You can have that then.
[1:37 PM]<hautdesert> It's not as bad as
you think. it tastes very good.
[1:37 PM]<CKTC> I'll take the grape leaves.
[1:37 PM]<Hawklady> Sounds OK to me
[1:37 PM]<CKTC> Oh, okay.
[1:37 PM]<hautdesert> Their slogan is "where
garlic is king."
[1:37 PM]<CKTC> Hummus...
[1:38 PM]<Hawklady> What are grape leaves
- vine leaves?
[1:38 PM]* needs some bicarbonate
[1:38 PM]<sabina> Got to go. (CK I have
some bits of the chat before you came)
[1:38 PM]<CKTC> Rice and vegetables wrapped
in grape leaves.
[1:38 PM]<CKTC> Okay, thanks, sabina. Could
you send them to me? A shame you have to leave. :(
[1:38 PM]<Hawklady> Bye Sabina!
[1:38 PM]<CKTC> Bye Sabina. *CK sniffs
sadly.*
[1:38 PM]sabina has left
[1:38 PM]* waves goodbye
[1:39 PM]<Shoka> By Sbina
[1:39 PM]<CKTC> And then there were five...
[1:39 PM]<hautdesert> bye, sabina
[1:39 PM]<CKTC> Paws.
[1:40 PM]<Hawklady> Stop sniffing CK - its
unmanly! ;)
[1:40 PM]<hautdesert> heh! mr haut's making
bacon and eggs. it was hautgirl's idea.
[1:40 PM]<Shoka> And falling fast, I have
to be elsewhere soon to CK
[1:40 PM]<Hawklady> Good girl!
[1:40 PM]* blows his nose into a hanky...in a real manly-like
manner...
[1:40 PM]<CKTC> Damn, everyone's gotta go,
eh?
[1:40 PM]<Hawklady> That's better!
[1:40 PM]<hautdesert> I'm sitll here! for
a bit, anyway.
[1:41 PM]* surreptitiously hides the flower print design on
said hanky...
[1:41 PM]<CKTC> Oh good.
[1:41 PM]<Hawklady> I'll have to go soon
too, but this has been fun.
[1:41 PM]<Shoka> Bad influance, i can smell
that bacon from here ...
[1:41 PM]<hautdesert> Mr haut can only make
a few things--bacon and eggs, pancakes, and bbq. so when I don't feel like
cooking, it's that or takeout.
[1:41 PM]<CKTC> Mmm. Bacon...
[1:41 PM]<Hawklady> Loverly
[1:41 PM]<CKTC> I love bacon cheese fries.
[1:41 PM]<CKTC> Had some last night as a
matter of fact.
[1:41 PM]<Hawklady> Now they sound nice
[1:42 PM]<Shoka> I love bacon and cheese
anything almost..
[1:42 PM]<CKTC> Yeah, they're quite tasty.
Especially with chili and jalapenos added on.
[1:42 PM]<Hawklady> Can u taste them??
[1:42 PM]<CKTC> Taste what?
[1:42 PM]<Ansikalden> Bacon in braised rolls
of beef.
[1:42 PM]<CKTC> Mmm. That sounds good,
Ansi.
[1:42 PM]<hautdesert> bacon-gift of the
gods!
[1:42 PM]<CKTC> Although I'm not sure what
braised means.
[1:43 PM]<Shoka> Must be the transalantic
link. Dis you really mean bacon and cheese and Jalapenos?
[1:43 PM]<CKTC> Bacon...sublime.
[1:43 PM]<hautdesert> To cook (meat or vegetables)
by browning in fat, then simmering in a small quantity of liquid in a covered
container.
[1:43 PM]<CKTC> Yup. Bacon, cheese, chili,
and jalapenos on fries. Yum!
[1:43 PM]<Hawklady> Bacon - yes, Cheese
- yes, but with jalapenos????
[1:43 PM]<hautdesert> gotta eat that with
a fork!
[1:43 PM]<CKTC> It'll give you a heart attack
on the spot, but it's so good.
[1:43 PM]<CKTC> Yes! Ja-la-pe-nos.
[1:44 PM]<Shoka> Green burning hot chillis
[1:44 PM]<CKTC> Yeah, definitely with a
fork.
[1:44 PM]<CKTC> Yes, but they weren't that
hot.
[1:44 PM]<hautdesert> jalapenos aren't,
really.
[1:44 PM]<hautdesert> compared to some others...
[1:44 PM]<CKTC> They can't serve really
hot peppers in a restaurant anyway.
[1:44 PM]<CKTC> True.
[1:44 PM]<CKTC> I like habaneras better.
[1:44 PM]<CKTC> Yum!
[1:45 PM]<hautdesert> try a jamaican restaurant,
ck
[1:45 PM]<Hawklady> They serve jalapenos
in Pizza Express
[1:45 PM]<hautdesert> those pepper sauces....
[1:45 PM]<CKTC> Oooh, if only we had jamaican
restaurants here. No such luck. But maybe when I move to L.A.
[1:45 PM]<hautdesert> ya movin to la, ck?
[1:45 PM]<CKTC> Yeah. Sometime in July
or August.
[1:45 PM]<hautdesert> is that your 1st choice
school?
[1:46 PM]<CKTC> Hell yes, by far! *grins*
[1:46 PM]<hautdesert> ucla?
[1:46 PM]<Hawklady> What you going to study?
[1:46 PM]<CKTC> Nope. I'll private message
you both...
[1:46 PM]* claps her hands
[1:47 PM]<CKTC> And you too, Ansi and Shoka,
if you want to know. But not on the chat that will potentially be posted
online.
[1:47 PM]* nods understanding
[1:47 PM]<hautdesert> privacy is important.
[1:48 PM]<CKTC> Yup.
[1:48 PM]<Shoka> I am most pleased for you
Aiji-ma. This could not happen to a more deserving candidate.
[1:48 PM]<Hawklady> *Hawklady wonders why
Ansi is not speaking*
[1:48 PM]<Hawklady> Thanks 4 the message
CK!
[1:48 PM]<CKTC> Shoka, if you or Ansi want
to know details, just send me a message.
[1:48 PM]<Hawklady> Congratulations
[1:48 PM]<CKTC> You're welcome.
[1:48 PM]<CKTC> Thanks.
[1:48 PM]* a very quiet person
[1:49 PM]* is matching socks
[1:49 PM]<Shoka> No thanks CK, other than
knowing that you got your preferred choice, I have no need to know.
[1:49 PM]<CKTC> Oh, okay, Ansi. :) Quiet
is nice.
[1:49 PM]<CKTC> Oh, okay. I have no problem
with you two knowing though.
[1:49 PM]<Hawklady> Hawklady wonders how
haut matches socks whilst typing
[1:49 PM]<CKTC> Anyway, I'll be moving in
a few months, I guess.
[1:50 PM]<CKTC> Haut has four arms.
[1:50 PM]<hautdesert> that's a big move.
[1:50 PM]<hautdesert> I match a few, type
a bit.
[1:50 PM]<Shoka> I hear Ohio is nice, will
you miss it?
[1:50 PM]<Hawklady> I have a sister in Ohio
[1:51 PM]<CKTC> Ohio? Uh, not really.
I've lived here my whole life. I'm getting a little sick of it actually.
[1:51 PM]<hautdesert> nice state--I was
born in Ohio.
[1:51 PM]<CKTC> It depends on where in Ohio.
[1:51 PM]<Hawklady> She lives in Broadview
Heights
[1:51 PM]<CKTC> I liked my hometown, but
I'm feeling a need to wander. I think it's in the blood.
[1:51 PM]<CKTC> I'm not familiar with Broadview
Heights, I'm afraid.
[1:51 PM]<hautdesert> My mom is going to
be there at the end of may for a cousin's wedding. Not toledo, though, I
think--the wedding is in....akron?
[1:51 PM]<Hawklady> I wonder if its a feline
type of roaming .......
[1:51 PM]<hautdesert> Not sure. I'm not
going. but my family is from toledo.
[1:51 PM]<CKTC> Oh, okay, Akron. Other
side of Cleveland.
[1:52 PM]<CKTC> Yeah, I remember you saying
that, haut. That was weird!
[1:52 PM]<hautdesert> very weird!
[1:52 PM]<CKTC> My parents moved around
a lot when I was younger. So did other relatives. I think my family has
a tendency to roam about a bit before settling down.
[1:52 PM]<hautdesert> My grandparents lived
less than a mile from where CK went to med school.
[1:52 PM]<CKTC> Heehee!
[1:53 PM]<CKTC> It is strange, indeed.
Small world!
[1:53 PM]<Shoka> Gota go now folks, need
to travel this evening.
[1:54 PM]<CKTC> Oh, okay. See ya later,
Shoka. Safe trip, wherever you're going.
[1:54 PM]<Ansikalden> Bye!
[1:54 PM]<CKTC> Bye!
[1:54 PM]<Hawklady> Sorry folks, I have
to go, much as I'd rather stay here and chat for a while
[1:54 PM]<CKTC> Aw, okay. Bye, Hawklady!
[1:54 PM]<Shoka> Bye Ansi, Ck, Hautlady
Hawklady
[1:54 PM]* waves to Hawklady
[1:54 PM]* waves to Shoka and Hawklady.
[1:55 PM]* waves to Ansi and Haut for the heckuvit.
[1:55 PM]* waves to himself for sheer fun.
[1:55 PM]<Hawklady> *sniffs (very unlady-like)
into a manly checked handkerchief* - Bye folks, thanks for the chat.
[1:55 PM]Shoka has left
[1:55 PM]<CKTC> Thanks for coming, Hawklady!
Bye!
[1:55 PM]Hawklady has left
[1:55 PM]<CKTC> And then there were three...
[1:56 PM]<CKTC> Alas...
[1:56 PM]* plays with belly button lint...
[1:56 PM]* resists the temptation to tread all over haut's
laundry.
[1:56 PM]* wonders what Sweden is like this time of year.
[1:56 PM]<hautdesert> and I have to go soon,
too. The bacon is nearly ready.
[1:57 PM]* looks at the clock
[1:57 PM]* looks at the clock and frowns at it.
[1:57 PM]* sighs sadly
[1:57 PM]* wonders why Ansi is sighing.
[1:57 PM]<hautdesert> well, it was supposed
to go from 11-1 (12-2 boaed rime, right?"
[1:57 PM]* is going to run away now...
[1:58 PM]<CKTC> Yup. It's usually around
2 hours. Actually, from 11-1 board time, 12 - 2 my time.
[1:58 PM]<hautdesert> now that was some
award winning typing.
[1:58 PM]<CKTC> Run away?
[1:58 PM]<CKTC> Heehee!
[1:58 PM]* runs
[1:58 PM]* waves from the distance
[1:58 PM]<CKTC> Is Ansi going then?
[1:59 PM]* mopes.
[1:59 PM]<Ansikalden> See you, CK and Haut
[1:59 PM]<hautdesert> I don't know, she's
so far away...
[1:59 PM]<Ansikalden> Let's chat again soon
[1:59 PM]<hautdesert> yes, it's always a
good time!
[1:59 PM]<CKTC> Aww, okay. So you gotta
go? Yes, sometime soon, hopefully. Bye, Ansi!
[1:59 PM]<Ansikalden> Bye!
[1:59 PM]* waves to Sweden.
[1:59 PM]<hautdesert> gotta go...got to
get the luandry off the table...
[1:59 PM]Ansikalden has left
[1:59 PM]<hautdesert> that's quite a wave,
there.
[1:59 PM]<CKTC> Okay. Well, I guess that's
that!
[1:59 PM]<CKTC> You going too, haut?
[1:59 PM]<hautdesert> yep. good time, thoguh.
gotta do it again. Yeah, I have to go.
[1:59 PM]<CKTC> Laundry calls, eh?
[2:00 PM]* waves forlornly
[2:00 PM]<hautdesert> lunch.
[2:00 PM]<CKTC> Yeah. Definitely. See
you then, haut. Take care!
[2:00 PM]<hautdesert> bye!
[2:00 PM]<CKTC> Bye!
[2:00 PM]hautdesert has left
[2:00 PM]<CKTC> And then there was one....
[2:00 PM]* winks out.